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David Janczewski's avatar

This is the organisational-memory problem in another coat. Giving a system the published document estate is not the same as giving it the branches people considered and dropped. In the businesses I work in, that discarded path is usually the useful context, and it has never been written down. Your six fields are a test I would run on a real company: can they timestamp a decision before the outcome, or do they only tidy the log afterwards?

Klaus Wrede's avatar

Alasdair's six fields are a genuinely useful proposal, and the diagnosis — that published papers scrub away exactly the reasoning that would teach a model taste — is right. But I think the deeper problem here isn't measurement bias or the selective-labels issue (both real, both well described). It's older, and it already has a name.

In 1932, the Vienna Circle had almost this exact argument, about almost this exact object. Otto Neurath attacked the idea that science could be grounded in "protocol sentences" — theory-neutral observation reports recording what actually happened in the lab, prior to any interpretive gloss. His point: a protocol sentence is still a sentence. Deciding what counts as "the evidence," what counts as a "candidate," where the confidence threshold sits — all of that is already interpretation, wearing the costume of a raw record.

I don't think this sinks the six-field proposal — it just relocates the problem instead of solving it. A perfect decision log doesn't give a model unmediated access to Alasdair's reasoning; it gives the model a second, more granular text about that reasoning, produced by someone deciding in real time what belongs in each of the six boxes. That's still an improvement on a paper's retrospective narrative — Neurath thought protocol sentences were useful, just not foundational — but it isn't the escape from theory-ladenness the piece seems to promise.

Genuine question: does "taste" require something closer to raw causal contact with the lab — Alasdair's living graph, video, sensor logs, the works — rather than any verbalized protocol, six fields or sixty? Or is verbalized, theory-laden judgment actually the only kind of "taste" worth training for, since it's the only kind a scientist can act on either?

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